Facebook game derived from Quinsta - suggestions?

[Silvanon]

You can now purchase stalls with Facebook Credits!

[Ravvana]

Silv, I requested a breeding between a mare I own and a stallion I own, and when I approved the breeding, it ate my 500G stud fee. Since I own the stallion, shouldn't the money have come out even (subtracted for breeding, added for stud fee)? Does the stallion's owner not keep the stud fee?

EDIT: It also says that my second mare, Debbani, is pregnant and cannot be bred, but she is not currently pregnant.

[Aralie]

*Purchases a new stall* Yay!

[springacres]

I love the automatic handling of blessing requests!  Way easier to deal with than, say, Farmville's system...

[Silvanon]

Rav - I found the bug that was making your mare say she had a breeding already.  As for breeding to your own stud, I've fixed the script so in the future if you're using your own stud it's automatically approved and no stud fee is required.  I haven't been able to find any bug in the code that would make you not get your stud fee back, though, and when I tried it out myself the stud fee was correctly transferred.

[Silvanon]

Selling of horses to other players, and to the system is now implemented!  Both run from the horse's Options page.  Please let me know if you run into any bugs with it!

Oh, also, I put my current to-do list that I'm updating in the first post of this thread, if you're curious to see what I'm working on and what's coming up.

[Willow]

I finally have a stallion!
A white boyo, related to Morhuata and Mesemath, 3rd gen.
Stud fee set to $450.

My facebook if anyone want to friend for Little Horses C:
http://www.facebook.com/r.egreenie

I love this game so far, I feel proud seeing it develop xD;

[Daimas]

Ellena
options
Sell this horse for 800(click yes)
Opens new options
are you sure you want to sell this horse for 800(click yes) it just keeps asking me, does not sell the horse

[Kadana Sorano]

Silv, I love the way accepting gifts is set up now.  It's not like I will ever not want to accept any, and I certainly do want to return them all, so it's pretty much perfect as is   The "ghost" notifications I do believe is a FB issue.  I have it with almost every other game I play at some point or other.


ETA: Just tried to purchase a stall with FBC, clicking on the 5th stall on my horse strip.  It opened up a new tab on my browser, but the page is blank.  It did not take any FBC from my account.  Tried to purchase via going directly to the store and stalls section, with the same results.

[Silvanon]

Daimas - thanks for the report on selling to the system.  I think I found the bug.  Would you let me know if you still encounter a problem?

Kadana - Hum...clicking on the stall should take you to the store, and it shouldn't be opening a new tab.  Facebook requires that all FBC purchases be made while you are inside a facebook page frame, so a new tab opening is definitely a problem.  What browser are you using?

[Kadana Sorano]

I'm using Firefox 14.0.1

And yes, I thought about that after I posted, that clicking the stall took me to the store anyway lol  But I was too tired to think to edit, sorry.

The new browser tab that it opens is still labeled at the top as Little Horses.  and still has a base little horses "frame" on the page, but that's it.  I can try and get a screen shot if that helps?

[Silvanon]

Hum, ok, I just downloaded Firefox and tried it out, but it opened like it should within the same page.  So not a browser specific problem.  I'm thinking now it's something to do with the settings on your computer.  Possibly a popup blocker?  Do you have javascript disabled perhaps?  Have you changed any setting with regards to iframes?

[Kadana Sorano]

I have adblock plus, and it does block pop ups, but it doesn't block the other pop ups for little horses so I didn't think that was the issue?  I'll try disabling it and see.

As for having javascript disabled, or the iframes thing, I have no clue what either of those things even are, so I don;t know

Anyway, I'll go disable adblock and see

ETA: OK, I tried disabling adblock just for your page/game, and that didn't help.  I disabled adblock all together, and it still didn't help.  The game did however, take much longer to load with adblock disabled.  Not sure if that's relevant or not.

How do I find/get you answers about the javascript and iframes?

[Daimas]

selling to the system works now Silv^^

[Silvanon]

Thanks Daimas!   

Kadana - I tried adding one fix that I found, would you let me know if that changed anything for you?

[Ravvana]

I tested the training, and it seems to work I trained Amira in ground manners with Tusca, and got this message: "Your horse completes the Ground manners class and receives a score of 98 for a ribbon color of Blue."

Yay Amira! XD

[Silvanon]

XD  I was just going to post that training was up, but you beat me to it!  Thanks for the report Rav!

[Kadana Sorano]

Nope, it didn't change anything, sorry Silv  

I tried to use Internet Explorer to connect to the game just now, thinking maybe it might help.  I know there are a rare few FB games I cannot play on FF and have to use IE  if I want them to work right.

But it didn't work in IE either.  It opened a new browser window instead of a tab like on FF, but all the new window has on it is the thin brown game "frame" with the brown "header" at top stating that it's Little Horses by Silvanon.  To the right on that brown header is Back|Help links.

The bottom of the page, in the brown/tan area under the actual window, says "Done, but with errors on page."  I did not get that message on FF.

And I don;t know what version my IE is, if someone can tell me where to check that, I'll let you know.

Oh one other difference with IE, I keep getting a little security pop up telling me "this page contains secure and nonsecure items.  Do you want to display the non secure items?"  To which I have been clicking Yes.  This happens not only on the shop page for purchasing the stall, but when I initially enter the game as well.  But I never got that message using FF.

[Silvanon]

Ok, I went through on IE and I think I got all the "bugs" it was complaining about taken care of.  FBC purchases still weren't working after all that, but then I found another little fix online that I tried, and it does seem to be working in IE now.  So, try it in IE and let me know what you get Kadana.  Thanks!

[Kadana Sorano]

Nope, still not working on IE.  Same results, sorry

On the plus side, it isn't taking my FBC.  Quite a few of the FB games do take the FBC even when the transaction didn't really go through.

ETA: Gonna try a difference computer.  No clue if/how/why that might work, but it's somethign I can try anyway.

ETA2:  OK Silv, I booted up the newest comp, the one Ali built last year.  I tried it on FF, IE, and Opera on his comp, and get the same results with all three browsers.

[Silvanon]

Ah, I just realized you said IE is opening in a new window for you too.  That behavior is definitely the problem.  I just haven't figured out how to get around it.  :/

[SGA]

NP Silv, the FBC's are there for you when you can figure it out  

[Silvanon]

Ok, after much searching I've figured out that the open-new-window problem happens when you're on a secure page (https instead of http)  - I'm too tired tonight to wrap my brain around the potential solutions, I'll keep poking at it tomorrow.

[Willow]

Eee training!
Winterfell's training went swimmingly
Apart from the fact he only scored 16 and got a grey ;a;
Never mind xDD;

[Scullisto]

*curls up on Willow's GoT reference*

[TheLeet]

I just got a weird foal:

Arabian F Array (Calmness: 4, Energy: 7)

What does it mean? 

[Willow]

I got one of those too Leet, in the end he turned out to be white xD;
I forgot to post it here x3;

[TheLeet]

That's interesting as her daddy is Winterfell so she might well be white, too. He's yours if I'm getting my facebook vs secundi indentities right - if not, I'm sorry and he's someone else's XD

I'll have to release one of the others so I can grow her and see now :x

edit: yep, she's white as well

[Willow]

Yep, it was my Winterfell
I'll pretend for now he has a special 'Array' gene until it's fixed xD;

[Silvanon]

Thanks for reporting that, Leet.  I'll get it fixed.

[Ravvana]

I forgot which Secundian Ella is, but how are you at that high of a level already? XD *fails at leveling*

[Silvanon]

I'm making a big change to how the game layout works.  Pretty much everything ought to look the same to you guys once I'm done, but it should prevent the new window problem that's preventing secure connections from being able to buy with FBCs.

Everything might break rather badly while I'm doing the update.  I'll get through it as quickly as I can.

[SGA]

Aha!  That explains it lol  I was just coming to say I got an error when clicking my horse to tend.  Thanks for the heads up Silv, I shall work on somethign else and try back later

[Silvanon]

Ok, after pretty much getting the new layout all going, I found that it was entirely too clunky and slow to actually work.  So, on to the next idea for fixing the problem.  *wry smile*

[Aralie]

I forgot which Secundian Ella is, but how are you at that high of a level already? XD *fails at leveling*

*sticks up hand* That would be me ^_^
I blame it on spending way too much time on the computer plus I have bought a few extra stalls so I have more horses to love on for exp XD

[Silvanon]

Alright, after much fuss, I think I've got everything back up and running and fixed so even people on secure connections can make facebook credit purchases.  Kadana, would you try it out again?

[springacres]

Worked just fine for me

Edit to clarify - I too am using a secure connection (I have the HTTPS add-on for Firefox, and was wondering why I couldn't purchase stalls with credits earlier)

[SGA]

Yay thank you Silv   It worked, I have 2 shiney new stalls.  Now I need to go start earning FBC's again so I can get more lol

[Silvanon]

Thanks for the report (and the purchase!) you two!  I'm very happy to hear it really is working now. XD

[Solistia]

Okay, so after playing for a bit, I do find one thing a bit....distracting. The font. It seems like you're using the default web font (I believe new times roman?). While that's good for papers and essays, I don't think it gives Little Horses the right feel. It's my suggestion to try and find a more fitting font for Little Horses to make it more visually stimulating :3

[YourLoveOnly]

I'm hoping you can add a clock.. The timezone doesn't match mine and I can't know when someone accepts a breeding request so now I keep obsessively refreshing to birth my foal XD

[SGA]

Ahah yea, I meant to ask if there was any way we can get a notice of some kind upon logging in, telling us if we have breeding requests waiting our approval?  Something similar to the Blessing notice perhaps.. I found a bunch of breeding requests the other day, and have no clue how long they had been sitting there waiting for me to approve them.  I simply forget to check the breedings tab on a regular basis.

[red_uni387]

Finally bought that 1st gen black male! 8D This game is really fun lol

[YourLoveOnly]

I second Kadana! (and runi too by the way =D)
I do remember to check daily, but I noticed I sometimes have to wait multiple days for people to approve my requests so it'd be very helpful ^^

[Solistia]

Love the new font choice Silv =D It feels much more smooth and flows together well on the pages ^o^
♥♥♥♥

[SGA]

Silv, just tried to set a Name Me Stally up for sale and got this error

Fatal error: Call to undefined method Critter::getcritterscurrentstuddings() in /home/silvan/public_html/LittleHorses/horsefunctions.php on line 71

I'm not sure if it went ahead and set him for sale any way or not though, this is the first time I've tried to put a price on one for sale.

[YourLoveOnly]

I searched for you, no horses showed up for sale so I don't think it went through.

Also, YLO needed new printer inkt and this one site was selling the kind I needed for super cheap so now I have 90 FB credits as a bonus, yaaay. -buys two stalls-

[SGA]

Ahh thankies YLO, I'll try again later when Silv has a chance to peek at it lol

Also, how much is "Super Cheap"? lol *has needed printer ink for a couple of years now* heh  I keep putting it off and using the library -.-

[YourLoveOnly]

Well it's a Dutch site, so for you it wouldn't be cheap XD But it was 1/3 of the original Epson price for each cartridge and the black one was free for new customers, so I got all 4 (black/cyan/yellow/magenta) for 18 Euros ^^ I got a cheap printer from my family, but its ink is super expensive, normally 12 euros per cartridge >_<

But yaaaay Quinsta stalls now 8D

[Silvanon]

Thank you everyone for your feedback!

I've added two notices to the main Your Place section - a listing of the current server time, and a notice that comes up if you have stud requests waiting.

Kadana - I believe I fixed the problem with putting stallions up for sale.  Would you let me know if you have any further problems with that?

What are your feelings as far as the rate of leveling, the rate of getting gold, the rate of stall availability, prices of store horses, Ethendil's stud fees, etc?   I don't want to make things too easy or too hard and have people get bored...