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Secundi Market District => Breeding Areas => Topic started by: YourLoveOnly on August 17, 2010, 11:25:58 AM

Title: [Quinsta] Looking for Arab & Grade studs/RBs
Post by: YourLoveOnly on August 17, 2010, 11:25:58 AM
I know this is waaay early, but I really want to get serious with these and find perfect pairs.
I am looking for studs and RBs with Arab Quinsta. Coat is more important than personality, but a good personality is nice too.

Because there are so many free studs available I am mostly looking for females. I also have no females myself, so it's important that I find some or I can't breed at all.

Update: I will now also accept Grade studs/RBs to get certain genes into the Arabs. Requirement is that one of the parents of your Grade must already be an Arab. I may also accept Gypsy Vanner mares if they have roan, tobiano or appaloosa and you do not mind them being used to produce grades.
Once I get the genes I want bred into the Arabs I will likely trade all the Grades I bred myself at that point (probably going to take months, but I figured I should tell this upfront). If you have a problem with that, please do not offer.

I am hoping for any/all of the following:
- cream (single or double. this means coat can be buckskin/perlino/palomino/cremello/smoky black/smoky cream)
- tobiano
- frame overo
- leopard appaloosa
- roan
- dun

I will also look at:
- snowflake appaloosa
- splash overo
- sabino overo
- blanket appaloosa
- solid chestnut mares without flaxen

I would prefer to stay away from flaxen and silver dapple, but if they are combined with one of the above I am willing to consider them.

My gene wishlist is mostly in order of preference. I know not all of these traits may be introduced to Arabs yet, but I am just making a full list that I can keep using in the future.

Do you have a Quin available?
If so, please reply with a picture of the Quin and the coat he/she has.
If you include a genetic code string and a list of offspring that would be really awesome too, but not required.

Please tell me what you would like as stud/RB fee. I can offer pretty much any amount of SG, Luminaria and Jaeman Prophecy premades/semi-customs/customs and LL Gidgets/Wobbles. I also have some Stable horses, Orlaya, Akara and Pecora available for trade.
Title: Re: [Quinsta] Looking for Arab studs/RBs
Post by: Kadana Sorano on August 17, 2010, 05:17:10 PM
I don't have a picture of him yet, but I have a silver dapple yellow dun colt from this season, you'd be welcome to use to breed with when he grows up if you like.  No fee, I'll post his pic and such as soon as I get them :)
Title: Re: [Quinsta] Looking for Arab studs/RBs
Post by: YourLoveOnly on August 31, 2010, 06:20:54 PM
Updated this.
Title: Re: [Quinsta] Looking for Arab studs/RBs
Post by: toffeeca on August 31, 2010, 08:11:12 PM
I have a red dun boy who you are free to use (http://www.secundi.net/agencyuploads/9-162.png)

Also, I am guessing this is more of a long term post, but I just did a quick search and these are the ones that fit your criteria, there are very few of everything but dun in the Arabs right now.

Creams- Buckskin stud, Palomino mare and stud

Tobiano- 0 arabs

Frame overo- 1 (which you own)

Appaloosa- The only two are mare gypsys

Roan- The only two are gypsys

Title: Re: [Quinsta] Looking for Arab studs/RBs
Post by: Ryuukokoro on August 31, 2010, 08:26:26 PM
I was going to say there's no roan Arabians, unfortunately. Toff beat me to it lol. I was hoping to get a roan grade this season so I could breed roan into the Arabian lines, but sadly the gene didn't pass! Ah well maybe I'll try again next season.
Title: Re: [Quinsta] Looking for Arab studs/RBs
Post by: red_uni387 on August 31, 2010, 08:33:43 PM
I have a chestnut sabino overo arab you can use for free :)
(http://www.secundi.net/agencyuploads/9-231.png)


and toff, there's more than 2 gypsys after Silv gets the rest of the foals colors ^^ but they're all gypsys ><

ryuu if you don't try i will :) and someone should try for clydes too...
Title: Re: [Quinsta] Looking for Arab studs/RBs
Post by: Kadana Sorano on August 31, 2010, 10:25:44 PM
Here is the pic of my boy.  He is silver dapple, but its combined with yellow dun..

(http://www.secundi.net/agencyuploads/9-254.png)

I don't know genetics so can't help there, and he has no offspring.  But his parents are my Answered prayers (Black Arab Stallion) and Dunkel's Sunny (Red Dun Arab Mare), both Answered Prayers and Sunny are first generation, if any of that helps.

Breeding with my studs is as always, free.
Title: Re: [Quinsta] Looking for Arab & Grade studs/RBs
Post by: YourLoveOnly on September 02, 2010, 08:47:32 AM
This is indeed a longterm post so I don't have to make a new one each month. There are defenitely some gorgeous new studs available! Now to find some mares so I can actually breed XD

I've updated the first post a bit. I think the only way to get certain genes into the Arabs is by using Grades (I believe Silv even said that at some point), so I will start doing that. I will need to breed and keep some grades and keep breeding the last offspring to another Arab until they produce Arabs again instead of Grades. This will likely take me quite some time, but once succeeded I am probably going to trade all the Grades I have then because I simply don't like the lineart that much.
Title: Re: [Quinsta] Looking for Arab & Grade studs/RBs
Post by: Dunkel.Prinzessin204 on September 02, 2010, 10:04:56 AM
Actually I think you have a chance of getting what you want if you do breeders choice. It's not guaranteed but there is a chance.  Also if you would like to use one of my duns let me know.
Title: Re: [Quinsta] Looking for Arab & Grade studs/RBs
Post by: YourLoveOnly on September 02, 2010, 10:09:50 AM
Hmm, maybe. But silv did say that in some cases Grade breeding will be neccessary to get traits.

I don't have any females, so right now I can't breed at all. So if you happen to have a female Arab available that would be awesome.
Title: Re: [Quinsta] Looking for Arab & Grade studs/RBs
Post by: Silvanon on September 02, 2010, 01:20:23 PM
It's true arabs currently have all the genes I intend to introduce via "wild" arabs - others will have to be bred in via grade breedings.

For breeder's choice, if you send a pure mare you'll never get back a grade foal.  If you send a grade mare who is 80% (or more) a certain breed, then you have a small chance of getting back a pure foal, and a good chance of getting back a grade foal.
Title: Re: [Quinsta] Looking for Arab & Grade studs/RBs
Post by: YourLoveOnly on September 02, 2010, 01:35:14 PM
I was expecting that, thanks for confirming it.

That means I will also make my search include mares that have appaloosa, tobiano and/or roan. Let me know if you have a mare of any breed with those trades and don't mind them being used to produce a Grade. I will breed them an Arab stud and start from there.