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Quinsta Genetics/Breeding Help for Breeding Plans

Started by LaneyAngel, March 18, 2011, 05:58:42 AM

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LaneyAngel

I don't know ANYTHING about breeding or genetics, but for next breeding season I want to start a breeding project of trying to bring some colour into Clydesdales, but I don't quite know how to go about it.

I myself have 3 Clydies as follows:

QuoteF Bay Sabino Overo, front right Fetlock, front left Sock, back right Sock, back left Stocking, Interrupted Stripe

QuoteM Silver Dapple Bay Splash Overo, front right Pastern, front left Pastern, back right Pastern, back left Pastern, Star and Snip

QuoteM Silver Dapple Bay Splash Overo, front right Sock, front left Stocking, back right Stocking, back left Stocking, Blaze


And I have 2 Arabians as follows:

QuoteF Palomino, front right Fetlock, front left Fetlock, back right Fetlock, back left Fetlock, Faint Star

QuoteArabian M Flaxen Palomino, front right Pastern, front left Stocking, back right Sock, back left Coronet, Star and Stripe


Lets just say my plans were to breed Palomino into the Clydies. Is this even possible and how would I do it? Since I don't understand the genetics myself, I need help!
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Ryuukokoro

Getting palomino into the Clyds is a great goal! ^^

First you need a baby that has Clyds genes and palomino genes. Breed a palomino to a Clyd to get this. IF the palomino passes the cream gene, the baby will have Clyds genes and palomino genes. It will be a Grade baby.

Then breed that baby to Clyds. Each time you will get a new Grade baby, but each baby will be more and more Clyds and less and less Arabian. Eventually you will get a full Clyds, and if the palomino gene passes each time, you will have a palomino Clyd! \o/

LaneyAngel

Sounds like its gunna take awhile, but thats definitely going to be my project. And it can work better now that I have both male and female Arabians.

All three of my Clydies have the overo gene, is that actually a cream related gene? I'm curious, because if two overo can make a lethal white.... Like I said, know nothing about genetics
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Quinsta- visual guide to males and females of each breed

Ryuukokoro

I think we figured out that it takes 4 breeding seasons to go from Grade to Pure. But that's only if your palomino gene passes successfully each time. I've been trying to breed Roan into the Clyds but twice so far the mom keeps not passing Roan onto her babies lol.

Overo is a type of Paint gene (white patches on the horses body). Palomino is a type of cream gene (makes the horses coloring lighter, so like a normal red-coated horse appears that creamy gold palomino color). The two types of genes aren't related as far as I know. ^^


The only thing about Overo is that you shouldn't breed them to another Overo. So like if you breed one of your Clyds to one of your Palominos, and the baby has Overo, it shouldn't be bred to one of your other Clyds because they also have Overo. But there are LOTS of Clyds out there to breed with so you still have lots of options. ^^

Ravvana

And if your grade foal has buckskin or smokey black (or palomino, of course), those should all be keepers. Those are all the same CREAM gene on different base coats, so they will all be equally effective in getting cream/palomino into Clydes :)

LaneyAngel

can't wait til next breeding season now that I have a plan to set in motion! XD
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Quinsta- visual guide to males and females of each breed