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TheStable Breeding help :p & Poss need or Warmblood stud ;)

Started by Pinkshadow, September 06, 2010, 03:49:05 AM

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Pinkshadow

I want to breed some Warmbloods, but i would liek some help on possible outcome coats colours and patterns :D



1. 538. Miss Dixie ~ Bay Tovero (Tobiano/Frame)
2. 590. Blue Princess ~ Blue Dun Silver Dapple Splash
3. 601. Shadow's Light ~ Red Dun Tovero (Tobiano/Sabino)
4. 618. Kayla ~ Golden Buckskin Tobiano
5. 619. Nathalie ~ Chestnut Flaxen Leopard Appy
6. 641. Cayah ~ Blue Dun Leopard Appy
7.643. Rainy ~ Chestnut Flaxen Tobiano



1. 539. Flair ~ Sooty Buckskin Roan Blanket Appy
2. 591. Golden Dust ~ Sooty Buckskin Snowflake Appy
3. 617. Golden Rain ~ Golden Palomino Snowflake Appy
4. 620. Nathaniel ~ Black Silver Dapple  Blanket Appy
5. 629. Aladdin ~ Black Tovero (Tobiano/Sabino)
6. 640. Hero ~ Chestnut Flaxen Frame Overo
7. 642. Golden Star ~ Golden Buckskin

Apprently i must be big fan of Appy since all my male WB's except one have it ;p

You could use this ;
Name x Name = Poss Outcome

http://stable.colbyforkicks.com/gallery/d/4193-1/foalingpaddock.png

YourLoveOnly

I am still working on typing up genetic coats for your horses, I have just been feeling ill a lot lately. Working on it, I promise! And then I will help you with outcomes if no one else did that by then ^^

Pinkshadow

No worries YLO (: This is more to see where i get the prettiest foal or yeh u know :P

YourLoveOnly

Finished all the genetic coats for your horses ^^
Note: I am using coat names that immediately show their colors. For example, a brown horse that has dun is often called Mouse Dun, but I just say Brown Dun so you can easily tell what color the horse is. It's all the same thing, I just prefer listing them this way, especially when people ask me to predict breeding outcomes.

Light Mares
Morning Star (#169)
Coat Color: Chestnut Roan
Genetic Code: ee ?? cc Rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt oo ?? Ff ?? ??

Laila (#364)
Coat Color: Grey
Genetic Code: ?? ?? ?? rr dd G? ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ?? ?? B?

Red Starframe (#544)
Coat Color: Bay Roan Tobiano
Genetic Code: Ee A? cc Rr dd gg ww ll ?? Tt oo ?? ?? zz ??


Light Stallions
Falkon (#217)
Coat Color: Bay Tobiano
Genetic Code: Ee Aa cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? T? oo ?? ?f zz ??

Amarito (#325)
Coat Color: Bay Roan
Genetic Code: E? A? cc R? dd gg ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ?? zz ??

Stripes (#365)
Coat Color: Brown
Genetic Code: E? At? cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ?? zz ??

Landon (#373)
Coat Color: Grey
Genetic Code: ?? ?? ?? rr dd G? ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ?? ?? B?

Keen (#397)
Coat Color: Black Dun Snowflake Appaloosa
Genetic Code: E? aa cc rr D? gg ww L? NN tt oo ?? ?? zz ??


Gaited Mares
Tequila (#376)
Coat Color: Grey Leopard Appaloosa
Genetic Code: ?? ?? ?? rr dd G? ww L? nn tt oo ?? ?? ?? Bb

Coco (#434)
Coat Color: Golden Buckskin Frame Overo
Genetic Code: E? A? Cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt Oo PP ?? zz ??

Sasselene (#485)
Coat Color: Lethal White
Genetic Code: doesn't matter, because Lethal Whites cannot breed.


Gaited Stallions
Star Fighter (#375)
Coat Color: Chestnut Roan
Genetic Code: ee ?? cc R? dd gg ww ll N? tt oo ?? F? ?? ?b

Zack (#433)
Coat Color: Black Dun Frame Overo
Genetic Code: E? aa cc rr D? gg ww ll ?? tt Oo PP ?? zz ??

Appensaon (#484)
Coat Color: Fleabitten Grey Roan Blanket Appaloosa
Genetic Code: ?e ?? ?c Rr dd Gg ww Ll Nn tt oo ?? ?? ?? bb


Pony Mares
Starshine (#431)
Coat Color: Chestnut Flaxen Blanket Appaloosa
Genetic Code: ee ?? cc rr dd gg ww L? Nn tt oo ?? ff ?? ??


Pony Stallions
Malon (#418)
Coat Color: Chestnut Flaxen
Genetic Code: ee ?? cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ff ?? ??

Jason (#430)
Coat Color: Chestnut Dun Flaxen Splash Overo
Genetic Code: ee ?? cc rr D? gg ww ll ?? tt Oo pp ff ?? ??

Blacky (#486)
Coat Color: Black Sabino Overo
Genetic Code: E? aa cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt Oo Pp ?? zz ??


Warmblood Mares
Miss Dixie (#538)
Coat Color: Bay Tobiano Frame Overo
Genetic Code: E? A? cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? Tt Oo PP ?? zz ??

Blue Princess (#590)
Coat Color: Black Silver Dapple Dun Splash Overo
Genetic Code: E? aa cc rr Dd gg ww ll ?n tt Oo pp ?? Z? ??

Shadow's Light (#601)
Coat Color: Chestnut Dun Tobiano Sabino Overo
Genetic Code: ee ?? cc rr D? gg ww ll ?? T? Oo Pp F? ?? ??

Kayla (#618)
Coat Color: Golden Buckskin Tobiano
Genetic Code: E? A? Cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? T? oo ?? ?? zz ??

Nathalie (#619)
Coat Color: Chestnut Flaxen Leopard Appaloosa
Genetic Code: ee ?? cc rr dd gg ww L? nn tt oo ?? ff ?? ??


Warmblood Stallions
Flair (#539)
Coat Color: Sooty Buckskin Roan Blanket Appaloosa
Genetic Code: E? At? Cc R? dd gg ww Ll Nn tt oo ?? ?? zz ??

Golden Dust (#591)
Coat Color: Sooty Buckskin Snowflake Appaloosa
Genetic Code: E? Ata Cc rr dd gg ww L? NN tt oo ?? ?? zz ??

Golden Rain (#617)
Coat Color: Palomino Snowflake Appaloosa
Genetic Code: ee ?? Cc rr dd gg ww L? NN tt oo ?? ?? zz ??

Natahaiel (#620)
Coat Color: Black Silver Dapple Blanket Appaloosa
Genetic Code: E? aa cc rr dd gg ww L? Nn tt oo ?? ?? Z? ??

Aladdin (#629)
Coat Color: Black Tobiano Sabino Overo
Genetic Code: E? aa cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? T? Oo Pp ?? zz ??

The horses with tobiano that have T? lack the spotting to indicate they are homozygous. This means they are most likely Tt, but it's not 100% sure.

I need to send away my computer for repairs and I have to go right now, so I can't do the breeding predictions, but I will do those the second I have internet access again (unless someone else already did it in the meantime).

YourLoveOnly

I found internet at a public library! XD And because this computer can't do what I want it to do and I love genetics I decided to spend my time doing this :P Codes for your new Warmbloods! ^^

Hero (#640)
Coat Color: Chestnut Flaxen Frame Overo
Genetic Code: ee ?? cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt Oo PP ff ?? ??

Cayah (#641)
Coat Color: Black Dun Leopard Appaloosa
Genetic Code: E? aa cc rr D? gg ww L? nn tt oo ?? ?? zz ??

Golden Star (#642)
Coat Color: Golden Buckskin
Genetic Code: E? A? Cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? tt oo ?? ?? zz ??

Rainy (#643)
Coat Color: Chestnut Flaxen Tobiano
Genetic Code: ee ?? cc rr dd gg ww ll ?? T? oo ?? ff ?? ??

Do you want me to predict outcomes for all your Warmbloods or only the ones up in the first post?

Pinkshadow

#5
Well im gonna post the new ones in here too, and it was supposed to be ppl mixing and matching them to get the most special coats or new coats or something :p

QuoteCayah (#641)
Coat Color: Black Dun Leopard Appaloosa
Genetic Code: E? aa cc rr D? gg ww L? nn tt oo ?? ?? zz ??

^^ She should be blue dun sweetie <3

but thanks alot for all the codes so far :D

YourLoveOnly

Blue dun = black dun :)
People call that blue dun, it is a black base with dun gene. Just like brown with dun is called mouse dun. I say black dun so you can easily see that it is a black base (so aa for agouti). It's easier when predicting breedingd and typing up code strings in my opinion, just saves a little extra thinking because you can clearly see what colors they are and you don't need to go "oh this says blue so that means black blahblah"

Will work on predictions later.

Pinkshadow


YourLoveOnly

Partly done -falls over-
I've highlighted certain pairings with different colors for easy viewing.
Red = Overo x Overo. Avoid these pairings!
Blue = Pairings that are likely to score goal breeding points
Green = The stallion that would give the biggest variety of babies with that mare (only one highlighted green pairing for each mare, so 7 total). Note: Other pairings may still give a lot of variety too.

Miss Dixie x Flair = 50% chance of single cream, appaloosa, tobiano and overo. At least 50% chance of roan (possibly 100%). We don't know if the parents carry chestnut and they both have an unknown agouti gene, so any base coat is possible (chestnut/black/brown/bay, but brown and bay are the most likely). This pairing can defenitely help figuring out their genes and also offers a lot of possibilities. If breeding them I would personally guess roan + cream/appy/tobiano/overo (any 2 out of those 4, odds are the same).
Miss Dixie x Golden Dust = Similair to the above pairing, this can throw you pretty much any base color and has a 50% chance of cream, tobiano and overo. There is at least a 50% chance of appaloosa (possibly 100%). If breeding them I would guess appaloosa + cream/tobiano/overo (any 2 out of those 4, odds are the same). Offers slightly less variety than the pairing before (no chance of roan) but could have a higher chance at appaloosa (which I know you love).
Miss Dixie x Golden Rain = A good pairing to test if Miss Dixie carries chestnut. Possibility of pretty much any base color and a 50% chance of cream, tobiano and overo (just like the previous pairing). There is at least a 50% chance of appaloosa (possibly 100%). If breeding them I would guess appaloosa + cream/tobiano/overo (any 2 out of those 4, odds are the same).
Miss Dixie x Nathaniel = Again, can give pretty much any base color. 50% chance of tobiano and overo. At least 50% chance of appaloosa and silver dapple (possibly 100%). If breeding them I would guess silver dapple appaloosa + tobiano/overo (either one, same odds)
Miss Dixie x Aladdin = Do not breed! They both have overo, so you risk getting a lethal white.
Miss Dixie x Hero = Do not breed! They both have overo, so you risk getting a lethal white.
Miss Dixie x Golden Star = Probably the most boring combination with this mare, but could help figuring out their agouti. Outcome is likely to be bay or golden buckskin with 50% chance of getting tobiano and/or overo. If breeding them I would guess bay + cream/tobiano/overo (2 out of those 3, same odds)

Blue Princess x Flair = Although black and chestnut might be possible (depending on hidden genes), brown is the most likely base color. 50% chance of cream, dun, appaloosa and overo. At least 50% chance of roan (possibly 100%). If breeding them I would guess brown roan + cream/dun/appy/overo (1 out of those 4, same odds for all)
Blue Princess x Golden Dust = If black based there's a 50% chance of black and 50% chance of brown. If one or both of them carry chestnut then chestnut is also possible. Bay is impossible. 50% of cream, dun and overo. At least 50% chance of appaloosa (possibly 100%). If breeding them I would guess black/brown/cream/dun/overo (any 2 out of those 4, same odds) + appaloosa.
Blue Princess x Golden Rain = Very helpful pairing to figure out genetics. Can throw any base color, depending on hidden genes. 50% of cream, dun and overo. At least 50% chance of appaloosa (possibly 100%). If breeding them I would guess appaloosa + cream/dun/overo (any 2 out of those 3, same odds).
Blue Princess x Nathaniel = This pair will only produce black and possibly chestnut if one or both of them are red carriers. 50% chance of dun and overo, at least 50% chance of appaloosa and silver dapple (possibly 100%). If breeding them I would guess black silver dapple appaloosa.
Blue Princess x Aladdin = Do not breed! They both have overo, so you risk getting a lethal white.
Blue Princess x Hero = Do not breed! They both have overo, so you risk getting a lethal white.

Blue Princess x Golden Star = Could help with Golden Star's agouti, but not a very useful pairing. 50% chance of cream, dun and overo. If breeding them I would guess cream dun overo.

Note: all pairing with Shadow's Light (excluding Golden Rain) are helpful for testing if the male carries chestnut. They are also helpful to figure out if Shadow's Light carries silver dapple.
Shadow's Light x Flair = Could produce any base color. 50% chance of cream, overo and appaloosa. At least 50% chance of dun, roan and tobiano. Silver dapple might also be possible if Shadow's Light is hiding it. When breeding them I would guess dun roan tobiano.
Shadow's Light x Golden Dust = Could produce any base color. 50% chance of cream amd overo. At least 50% chance of dun, appaloosa and tobiano. Silver dapple might also be possible if Shadow's Light is hiding it. When breeding them I would guess dun appaloosa tobiano.
Shadow's Light x Golden Rain = Will produce chestnut or palomino. Dun, tobiano, overo and possibly flaxen can show up on the offspring. If breeding them I would guess chestnut dun + tobiano/cream/overo (either one of those 3, same odds)
Shadow's Light x Nathaniel = Most helpful pairing for figuring out Shadow's Light's agouti. Can produce any base color. 50% chance of overo. At least a 50% chance of dun, appaloosa, silver dapple and tobiano. If breeding them I would guess dun appaloosa silver dapple.
Shadow's Light x Aladdin = Do not breed! They both have overo, so you risk getting a lethal white.
Shadow's Light x Hero = Do not breed! They both have overo, so you risk getting a lethal white.

Shadow's Light x Golden Star = Can produce any base color. 50% chance of cream and overo. At least 50% chance of dun and tobiano. Silver dapple might also be possible if Shadow's Light is hiding it. When breeding them I would guess dun tobiano + cream/overo (either one of the 2, same odds).

Will do others later.